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    *** MUST READ **** Mission Track Day Event Registration Information

    In view of the upcoming VCMC track day at Mission Raceway in less than a month, I would like to post a bit of history and also a list of things that all track event beginners should read.

    The last time VCMC organized a track event was around 15 years ago. Prior to that the club had a poor average of members writing off their cars, at the rate of one per year for a few years, at those events. Granted, those were the days of Westwood, and the track was known for being un-forgiving. Also, the format used in running track days has changed substantially over the last 10 years, making them somewhat safer than before. The main difference is that most modern track days try to identify beginners and get instructors to provide the necessary instructions and guidance to minimize potential accidents. However, as vehicle speed increases, the risk level generally raises with it. As Carroll Smith once said “…the price of men in motion is the occasional collision….”. Our goal, as event organizer, is to provide a fun event and minimize the risk for our participants. This is only possible if the members themselves recognize the risks and conduct themselves accordingly while on track, as well as ensuring the car is safe prior to arriving at the event.

    The following are some recommendations, as well as some pointers, for all of you who will be running your first track event.

    For the car:

    1) For track usage, the most important component on the car is the braking system. If you haven’t changed your brake fluid in the last three months, you should (actually, “must” is a better choice of word here) do it before going to the event. The best is to use a fluid that is rated for 500+ degrees. Motul 600 is probably one of the most popular and I know PDM Racing usually has a good stock. Next is to check and make sure you have enough material on the brake pads. Mission can be really tough on brakes. Pads with a higher temperature limit are better if you plan on driving hard and don’t want to live with pulsating brakes afterward. If you choose to drive on stock pads, that’s OK too, just use a longer braking distance to spread out the heat generated. However, new brake fluid is a must.

    2) Tires must have enough thread to ensure you don’t cord them while at speed, which could lead to a sudden lost of grip at one end of the car. You don’t really need R-compound tires, you only need to recognize the limit of your tires and drive accordingly.

    3) If you have set up your car perfectly for autocrossing, meaning the car would rotate easily (aka minimal understeer) at low speed corners, it might just turn into full blown oversteer when the cornering speed is elevated. Typically, you would want a bit more understeer for stability as speed increases. Therefore, for you FWD owners, you might want to lower your front tire pressure so that there is less difference between front pressure and rear pressure. RWD might also need front pressure dropped to ensure the front tires slide first. Also, since you will be running for a much longer time than autocross, your tires will heat up and pressure will increase. Your initial pressure should be lower than your typical autocross pressure. In most cases, you could be seeing 6-8 psi increase in the driving tires during the session, and up to 4-5 psi increase in the non-driving tires. Some of the higher performance cars like to run with factory recommended air pressure at the track. Most economy cars would benefit with 4-10 psi higher than the factory recommended setting. If you don’t know where to start, please ask. Hopefully, we have some other members who have experience with the same type of car.


    For the Driver:

    1) Remember this: A TRACK DAY IS NOT A RACE. It’s entertainment, it’s recreation, but it’s not a race. There is no prize money, there is no trophy, there is not even results showing lap times at the end of the day. However, there could be broken cars and broken bones if we are not careful as drivers. Please don’t forget what I mentioned earlier about VCMC’s previous track record in hosting track days. Go to a track day with the right attitude and you will have a great time for sure. Go there with an ego or contempt, and the track will eventually find a day to punish you. As I said earlier, recognize the risk and drive accordingly. Mission has run off room for certain areas while other areas are lined with concrete walls. Pick your corners if you insist on testing your bravery, but please don’t do it with other cars in front or behind you, which lead me into my next point.

    2) Don’t follow the car ahead of you too closely. If he/she spins, you will most likely collect it while both of you go off the track. There are specific areas where you can pass safely and we will go thru passing procedures and techniques in the morning lecture.

    3) Use your mirrors, and be aware of where you are relative to other cars, just like you would driving on the streets. No, you are not allowed to talk on your cell phone while on track. Besides, it’s hard to listen with your helmet on.

    4) Remember what Velocity Driving School had taught you. Precision, smoothness and control. These three things become more important as speed increases, especially the “control” part.

    5) If you see a car in your mirrors that wasn’t there on the previous lap, then it must be a faster car (or driver). Let them pass at the next passing zone. These passing zones are usually on the straights. Just lift slightly so that the passing car can complete the pass before it runs out of room. Drag racing the passing car down the straight to see if you can stay with him will only create a hazard when both of you get to the braking zone.

    6) Pay attention to flag stations when you drive by them. It’s the only way we can communicate with you. Your instructors will show you where these stations are on the initial laps.

    7) Although it is not a requirement, I highly recommend all drivers to wear long sleeve shirts and full length pants rather than shorts and t-shirts. Wear gloves if you have them. Basically, cover yourself from head to toe. Potential fire hazard is extremely low, but it exists. Also, wear pure cotton or wool rather than synthetic materials. The only synthetic material that won’t burn or melt onto your skin is Nomex.



    I might add onto this list, as we get closer to the date. If any experienced members can think of anything I have missed, please feel free to post. Details on flags, passing procedures, track/corner specifics and running format will be covered in the morning lecture.

    Joe
    Last edited by Vancouver Special; June 1, 2010 at 14:18.
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    Re: Upcoming Mission trackday - info for first timers

    Make sure your brake lights work!

    Come with a full tank of gas.

    Take off any plastic pieces off your wheels.

    It is the responsibility of the slower car for the pass to happen safely.

    Pay attention how the behavior of the car changes if you've been out on the track for a while. You cook your brakes, they tend to drop off fast.

    If it rains, tone it down by 40%. Feel out how it behaves and then find your rythm. Lower rpms offer more grip in rain.



    That's all I can remember to add.

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    Re: Upcoming Mission trackday - info for first timers

    Mission is a very brake intensive course with little brake cooling time, ie long straights. Because of the little run off area, if your brakes go, you can get into a lot of trouble fast.

    That being said, take the time to properly prep the car before hand. Highly recommend higher temp brake pads, something like the Hawk HP+ or better. It sucks to glaze the brake pads on the third lap of the first session and then have to baby the car for the rest of the day.
    Brake cooling ducts might be a good idea.
    Get the higher temp brake fluid and do a proper change. Do not mix Dot 3 brake fluid with Dot 4 or Dot 5.
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    Re: Upcoming Mission trackday - info for first timers

    Thanks Joe and others for the detailed writeup. To add on to what Joe and others have already said, me and Arnold have compiled the following rules and guidelines for the track day. Make sure you read it in details.

    1. MANDATORY TECH INSPECTION

    - Brakes - minimum 50% brake lining on pads.

    - Brake Fluid - must be clean and full. We highly recommend that you have your braking system flushed with new, fresh brake fluid. (high temperture fluid like Joe mentioned)

    - Tires - DOT approved, 3/32" min tread depth, not below wear bar, no cuts or cracks.

    - Wheel nuts - properly torqued according to manufacturer's specs.

    - Fuel cap must be securely fastened and leak free.

    - Hood and deck lids must be securely fastened.

    - Headlights & Brake Lights operating properly.

    - Windshield - no cracks longer than 4 inches.

    - Safety Belts - in good operating condition with no cuts or frays .

    - Batteries - securely fastened with no visible leaks or corrosion.

    - Throttle - smooth uninterrupted release.

    - Helmet - Snell (automotive) rating according to current regulations. M or SA 2000 helmets required

    - Driver Safety Gear - Long sleeves and long pants of cotton material. We highly reccomend that you use Nomex driving gloves and nomex balaclava for those using open-faced helmets.

    - All loose items (inside passenger including floor mats, luggage, glove and engine compartments) must be removed from the car.

    - Cabriolets require a roll bar or factory roll over protection. Your helmet must be below the roll bar - same goes for the instructor.

    - Car ID # decals - displayed clearly on the right side of the vehicle . A number will be assigned to you later, you could use tapes, but makes sure people can see it clearly at a distance.

    Note: The on-track tech Inspection will be conducted at all VCMC hosted events. Failure to pass the inspection will result in exclusion from the event and no refund will be given. It is the drivers' responsiblity to make sure the car pass inspection.

    2. TRACK ENTRY AND EXIT

    - The track shall be entered at the end/exit of the hot pits only.

    - Exiting the track to the hot pits or paddock (at the end of the hot pits) is on the right at the end of Turn 9. Drivers exiting the track must extend his/her arm vertically out of the window before Turn 9.

    - Entry speed to the hot pits or paddock is maximum 10 km/hr.

    3. DRIVING / PASSING

    - THERE SHALL BE NO WHEEL-TO-WHEEL RACING.

    - Doors must remain unlocked and sunroofs (if installed) must be closed while on the track. Windows must be either fully up or down.

    - Pass ONLY when acknowledged by a hand signal (point) from the driver being passed. Slower cars has to let faster cars by, remember this is not racing.

    - A participant will sit-out the event if he/she spins their car or goes off track twice whilst driving.

    4. PASSING ZONES

    ZONE A - Commencing on the exit of Turn 2 up to the last "brake marker cone" for Turn 3

    ZONE B - Commencing on the exit of Turn 3 up to the last "brake marker cone" for Turn 4

    - Novice- Zone A

    - All others- Zone A and B

    5. PASSING INSTRUCTIONS

    - PASSING PERMITTED ONLY IN THE DESIGNATED ZONES ACCORDING TO THE RUN GROUP.

    - PASSING ON THE LEFT ONLY !

    - PASSING IS PERMITTED ONE CAR AT A TIME ONLY

    - ALL PASSING MUST BE COMPLETED BY THE LAST BRAKE MARKER CONE OF EACH ZONE.

    - A COMPLETE PASS MEANS THE PASSING VEHICLE MUST HAVE HIS OR HER BUMPER IN FRONT OF THE VEHICLE THAT'S BEEN PASSED.

    - EASE OFF SPEED ONCE YOU SIGNAL (POINT) THE VEHICLE BEHIND TO PASS AND ENSURE YOU PROVIDE SUFFICIENT SPACE FOR THE PASS TO BE COMPLETED SAFELY.

    - THERE SHALL BE NO PASSING IN ANY CORNER

    6. FLAGS

    - Knowledge of flags is mandatory. The following describes the meaning of flags used by VCMC at MRP.

    GREEN - Track is clear.

    YELLOW - Caution, slow down, no passing.

    BLUE WITH DIAGONAL YELLOW STRIPE - Check mirrors. Be aware that faster traffic is approaching or behind you. Point driver behind to pass in appropriate passing zone.

    FURLED BLACK - Rules infraction. Complete lap (drive off-line) at reduced speed, return to hot pits and report to Chief Instructor (Joe Cheng) and Track Marshal.

    UNFURLED BLACK - Rules infraction or mechanical problem. Complete lap (drive off-line) at reduced speed, return to hot pits and report to Chief Instructor and Track Marshal.

    RED - A serious incident has ocurred on the track. Slow down immediately and park your car safely by the track side. Await instructions.

    CHECKERED - Session finished. Complete cool down lap(s) as indicated and return to paddock.

    - A participant failing to acknowledge the Blue Flag for 2 laps will be shown the Black Flag at Start/Finish. Failure to acknowledge the Black Flag (unfurled) twice (ie 2 laps), will result in the Checkered Flag for the session.

    - We may simplfy the flag system, but you still should understand the meaning of all the flags.

    7. CORNER STATIONS

    -Turn station workers (with flags) are located at the exit of Turn 10 (Start/Finish), Turn 2, Turn 4, Turn 6 and Turn 8. All participants are required to man corner stations as part of the Driver Education programme. More of this later.


    8. Waivers

    -All participants and guests will need to sign the waiver when they enter the track in the morning. You will need to email me the guests that you are going to bring for the day, we won't be allowing any spectators into the track unless they are on the guests list, this is to ensure VCMC is protected from potential litigation issues. My email address is gfung@telus.net.

    9. Registration and schedule of the day

    -Karelo will be up shortly, everybody who is already on the list earlier has to register. The fee will be $150.

    - Schedule of the day will be up shortly.

    That's it for now, additional information maybe added closer to the day, so please check back often!

    Please also read the following Lapping day regulation published by ASN CANADA: http://www.asncanada.com/2007%20Solo...egulations.pdf
    Last edited by Fab_vr6; July 12, 2007 at 09:52.
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    Re: Upcoming Mission trackday - info for first timers

    Quote Originally Posted by Fab_vr6
    Cabriolets require a roll bar or factory roll over protection. Your helmet must be below the roll bar
    Gary,

    Just to clarify, will the stock roll hoop in the S2000 be suffice? With my helmet on, the helmet is about an inch past the roll hoop but PIR was nice enough to allow me to run.
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    Re: ***Upcoming Mission trackday - info for first timers***

    Ditto, for me Gary wrt my helmet above roll hoop.
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    Re: ***Upcoming Mission trackday - info for first timers***

    This is a great thread... I would agree with just about everything in here. While I only have about 5 or 6 sessions at Mission, I would go a little beyond what Allan said about turn 4: I have personally spun there in the rain, and it is the turn I (and I know a number of others, I have seen other spins there) have the most trouble with. The issue is not just applying brakes too early; you see turn 5 coming fast and just lifting throttle can cause a spin. You must maintain throttle through 4, then quickly transition to braking for turn 5 entry.
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    Re: Upcoming Mission trackday - info for first timers

    Quote Originally Posted by SumAznGuy
    Gary,

    Just to clarify, will the stock roll hoop in the S2000 be suffice? With my helmet on, the helmet is about an inch past the roll hoop but PIR was nice enough to allow me to run.
    To answer that question, please refer to the ASN Canada FIA Solosport Lapping regulations 2007.

    http://www.asncanada.com/2007%20Solo...egulations.pdf
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  9. Re: Upcoming Mission trackday - info for first timers

    Quote Originally Posted by Fab_vr6
    - Tires - DOT approved, 3/32" min tread depth, not below wear bar, no cuts or cracks.
    how deep is the tread depth when a tire is used down to the wear bar?

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    Karelo signup

    Here is the Karelo signup boys and girls: https://www.karelo.com/enter_res.php?&F=1&P=1&BID=56

    The event schedule will be posted as it gets closer to the event.

    Please make sure you input your track and Mission experience when you sign up, we absolutely need this information to group the participants. We don't want to be chasing everybody with this piece of information so don't leave that blank guys!

    updated List

    1. Clement Choi
    2. Tony Bergelt
    3. Eric Testroete
    4. Sead Causevic
    5. Edwen Ma
    6. Carson Au
    7. Richard Basford
    8. Humphrey Yu
    9. Mark Uhlmann
    10. Billy Cheng
    11. Lisa Pusey
    12. Sanjay Dlima
    13. Jerome Lin
    14. leslie yu
    15. Denny Fok
    16. Jason Tcheng
    17. Tom Brydon
    18. Edward Tsui
    19 Shane Jensen
    20 Hedwig Poon
    21. Donald Tse
    22. Daryll Yeng
    23. Jason Wan
    24. Mitch Burton
    25. Ernie Sin
    26. Barry Sin
    27. Adam McCausland
    28. Courtenay Whynot
    29. Don Nimi
    30. Jack Yeung
    31. John Yeung
    32 Stan Michalak
    33. Tim Ames
    34. Wes Shew
    35. Bob Yeager
    36. Andy Liu
    37. Nicholas Cheng
    38. Jenny Maginn
    39. Phillip Li
    40. Danny Kwan
    41. Brian Lee
    42. Andrew Wilson
    43. Kam Wu
    44. Daniel Leung
    45. Chris Ong
    46. James Yip
    47. Roger Tang
    48. Anthony Carmichael
    49. Mike Marich
    50. Elaine Chen


    waitlist.

    51. William Sheng
    52. Giles Medlicott
    53. Sammy Mak

    I have removed myself and Henry Ho from the list as we will not be driving
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  11. Re: *** MUST READ **** Mission Track Day Event Registration Information

    Wear bars should be typically around 2mm or 2.5/32 - 3/32 inch

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    Re: Upcoming Mission trackday - info for first timers

    http://www.sccbc.net/images/track.jpg

    Here is a map of the track
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  13. Re: ***Upcoming Mission trackday - info for first timers***

    Stickied and moved to Racing Events for more attention. Thank you guys!

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    Re: ***Upcoming Mission trackday - info for first timers***

    My Recommendation:

    Start easy (maybe 75% lets say) and then slowly build the speed up session by session. Learn the lines and watch for surface features that might upset the car in a heavy braking/cornering situation.
    Unlike autox where you are attacking 100% on your first run at a track day there are alot more painful and pricey consequences to a small mistake (by you or by the person near you!).

    Make sure you are totally comfortable with the speed you are at before trying to pick it up a notch.
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